Sirach 44: 9-15

Of others no memory remains,
for when they perished, they perished,
As if they had never lived,
they and their children after them.
Yet these also were godly;
their virtues have not been forgotten.
Their wealth remains in their families,
their heritage with their descendants.

Through God’s covenant their family endures,
and their offspring for their sake.
And for all time their progeny will endure,
their glory will never be blotted out;
Their bodies are buried in peace,
but their name lives on and on.
At gatherings their wisdom is retold,
and the assembly proclaims their praises.
Sirach 44: 9-15

* [44:150:24] As in the previous section God’s glory shone forth in the works of nature, so in these chapters it is revealed through the history of God’s people as seen in the lives of their ancestors, prophets, priests, and rulers. The example of these great people, whose virtues are recalled here, constitutes a high point of Ben Sira’s teaching.

* [44:115] The reader is here introduced to those people of Israel, later mentioned by name, who through various achievements and beneficial social activities have acquired great renown (vv. 181415); and also to those who, though forgotten, endure through the fruit of their virtues and through their families because of God’s covenant with them (vv. 915).




I can relate to Sirach 44: 9-15. my sins are many and their frequency is great.

"Of others no memory remains, for when they perished, they perished, as if they had never lived, they and their children after them." 

Is it possible that "rest in peace" (i.e. "buried in peace") and heaven are two different states? 

"Yet these also were godly; their virtues have not been forgotten. Their wealth remains in their families, their heritage with their descendants. Through God's covenant their family endures, and their offspring for their sake. And for all time their progeny will endure, their glory will never be blotted out; Their bodies are buried in peace, but their name lives on and on. At gatherings their wisdom is retold, and the assembly proclaims their praises."

Jesus said "In my Father's house there are many dwelling places" (John 14:2). "Buried in peace" sounds to me like a wonderful gift for those who believe in and love God, and that Jesus redeemed us from our sins. 



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